I've read several comments about meta tags, and have a perfect example of what problems exist when you either have them on all your pages vs/none. Our site was originaly done in frames, but after no luck with any of the big search engines, we added a seperate page that sits for several seconds, no frames, before going to the framed page. Each page after that has meta tags. Still no luck in getting listed, even at the bottom of 33,550 results. So, do I drop the idea of meta tags, or do I assume that these search engines do not allow you to have a site that exist on another site with a forward slash. Any help here?