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From Cheater on 29 March '99
replying to supported fonts posted by Andrew

Well, I hope this much HTML is understood by the board.


<P>The fonts that ship with new Mac systems these days include:</P>
<UL>
<LI> Chicago
<LI> Courier
<LI> Geneva
<LI> Helvetica
<LI> Monaco
<LI> New York
<LI> Palatino
<LI> Symbol
<LI> Times
<LI> Zapf Dingbats
</UL>
<P>If your audience is all on Macs, then using any of these fonts is a safe bet.</P>
<P>The fonts that ship with Windows 95, Windows 3.1x, and Windows NT include:</P>
<UL>
<LI> Arial
<LI> Comic Sans
<LI> Courier New
<LI> Modern
<LI> MS Sans Serif
<LI> Symbol
<LI> Times New Roman
<LI> WingDings
</UL>
<B>NOTE</B>
<P>For some reason, Navigator doesn't display Comic Sans,
MS Sans Serif, or WingDings, regardless of how they're
spelled. And it likes courier, but not courier new. (Explorer displays all
of these just fine.)</P>
<P>Finally, Windows 97 ships with all of the same fonts as
Windows 95, with many more as part of the Windows 97 Value Pack. A
few fonts worth noting are:
</P>

<UL>
<LI> Baskerville Old Face
<LI> Book Antiqua
<LI> Bookman Old Style
<LI> Century Schoolbook
<LI> Cooper Black
<LI> Copperplate Gothic
<LI> Eras
<LI> Eurostile
<LI> Franklin Gothic
<LI> Garamond
<LI> Gill Sans
<LI> Goudy Old Style
<LI> Impact
<LI> Lucida
<LI> Lucida Sans
<LI> Stencil
</UL>
<B>NOTE</B>
<P>There are a lot of font faces that Navigator <I>should</I> display, but does not (especially on the Mac). Test often, and try not to get too discouraged!</P>
<P>And what do all these systems have in common? What are the fonts that you can always use on any page and never have to worry? The master list:</P>
<UL>
<LI> Arial and Helvetica (they look alike; make sure to name both for each use)
<LI> Courier
<LI> Symbol
<LI> Times
</UL>
<P>
<B>NOTE</B>
<P>
Fortunately, Courier and Times work across platforms
even though the names vary slightly. If you use
times as the value of font-family, the Windows browser recognizes it as Times
New Roman. But to be safe among the many browsers out
there, you might still wish to refer to both times and
times new roman, and do the same for courier and courier new.
</P></P>
<P>Three fonts to choose from for text (I'm not including the
Symbol font). Not exactly a lot of flexibility. This is why
Microsoft, Adobe, and others are racing to develop new type standards
such as OpenType (and dynamic fonts—see upcoming sections),
which will enable Web designers to transfer actual
<I>font</I> <I>information</I> right along with Web pages, so visitors can see fonts even if they don't have them installed on their systems. Very cool.
</P>

<H3>
"Best Guess" Fonts
</H3>

<P>Okay, here is where you have to be willing to take some risks.
Make sure you know before taking the leap, and make sure you test and test and test before going
to sleep at night.
</P>

<H4>
Internet Explorer Fonts
</H4>

<P>If your audience is using Internet Explorer, your options expand
a bit. Internet Explorer 3 for Windows 95 ships with these
fonts included:
</P>

<UL>
<LI> Arial Black
<LI> Comic Sans MS
<LI> Impact
<LI> Verdana
</UL>

<P>The final version of Explorer 4.0 will ships these fonts
as well.
</P>

<P>The full version of Internet Explorer 3 for
Macintosh ships with these fonts:
</P>

<UL>
<LI> Arial
<LI> Arial Black
<LI> Comic Sans MS
<LI> Courier New
<LI> Georgia
<LI> Impact
<LI> Times New Roman
<LI> Trebuchet
<LI> Verdana
<LI> Wingdings
</UL>

<P>So if your audience is definitely using Explorer, you can add
most of these font faces to your "sure bet" column.
</P>

<H4>
Netscape's Dynamic Fonts
</H4>

<P>Netscape licensed technology from Bitstream Inc. has
another way to try to get around the problem of limited font
choices. Built into Navigator 4.0 is the capability of displaying fonts
even if those fonts <I>aren't</I> on the user's system. This technology,
called TrueDoc, maintains the look and feel of any font across all
platforms, including onscreen display and printing. It even anti-
aliases the font, so there are no ugly jaggies.
</P>

<P>Basically, here's how it works: You specify any font you want to
in your style sheet. When a visitor comes to your page, the
browser checks your system for the font. If it's there, great. If not,
TrueDoc's font processors will closely approximate the font for
temporary use. That is, the visitor will see the font onscreen and
be able to print it, but will be unable to keep the font for other
uses. When the page is gone, so is the font.
</P>

<P>Of course, keep in mind that this dynamic font technology
gives you font freedom only if your audience is entirely using
Navigator. (Unfortunately, as of this writing, this dynamic font
technology is not yet part of the Navigator 4 beta. But Netscape
promises it will be part of the final version.)
</P>

<H4>
OpenType
</H4>

<P>This is a good time to mention OpenType, which is a font
initiative somewhat like TrueDoc. OpenType is currently being
co-developed by Microsoft and Adobe. The very fact that these
two companies are teaming up for something means that
OpenType stands a good chance at becoming a standard.
</P>

<P>OpenType is a new font format, a superset of existing
TrueType and Type 1 fonts, which will allow for fast downloading of
font information over the Web. It will enable Web designers to
embed specific fonts into a Web page, so that even visitors without
those fonts installed will be able to view them temporarily. These
high-quality on-screen fonts and font technology will be
cross-platform and (many of us pray) cross-browser as well.
</P>

<P>Details on OpenType are still sketchy at this point.
Neither browser supports OpenType in their 4.0 versions. But it's
definitely something to watch for in the future!
</P>

<H4>
Microsoft Office Fonts
</H4>

<P>Everyone's got Microsoft Office, right? Or at least
Microsoft Word? Well, no. But a lot of people do. And that might be
reason enough to use the following fonts, which ship with various
versions of Office (97, 95, NT, 4.3, and 4.2):
</P>


<TABLE>

<TR><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
4.3
</TD><TD>
4.2
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Font
</TD><TD>
97
</TD><TD>
95
</TD><TD>
NT
</TD><TD>
(Win)
</TD><TD>
(Mac)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Algerian
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Arial Black
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Arial MT
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Arial Narrow
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Arial Rounded Bold
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Bauhaus 93
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Book Antiqua
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Bookman Old Style
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Braggadocio
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Brittanic Bold
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Brush Script MT
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Century Gothic
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE>

<TR><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
4.3
</TD><TD>
4.2
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Font
</TD><TD>
97
</TD><TD>
95
</TD><TD>
NT
</TD><TD>
(Win)
</TD><TD>
(Mac)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Century Schoolbook
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Colonna MT
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Courier
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Desdemona
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Footlight MT Light
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Garamond
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Greek Symbols
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Haettenschweiler
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Iconic Symbols ext
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Impact
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Kino MT
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Math ext
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Matura MT
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Script Capitals
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Mistral
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Monotype Corsiva
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Monotype Sorts
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
MS LineDraw
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Multinational ext
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Playbill
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Stencil
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Times New
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Roman PS MT
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Typographic
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Vivaldi
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Wide Latin
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
Wingdings
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
3
</TD></TR></TABLE>
<P>Obviously, the fonts that cross all versions of Office are even
better guesses of fonts to use on your Web pages. Watch for
varying spellings, however.
</P>





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